Comments on: Do you know the true story of Thanksgiving? https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/ A look at how trends in communication technology impact individuals and organizations. Wed, 22 Jan 2020 21:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: geoist https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-201183 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:11:16 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-201183 […] all-important geoist instrument is neglected by governments, so it will come as a shock to hear …Do you know the true story of Thanksgiving? Christian Web …Do you know which Thanksgiving holiday traditions are based on the true story of the first […]

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By: vikki https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152067 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:46:21 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152067 Terry Seney, Thank you very much!!

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By: Rev. Dr. Terry Seney https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152018 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:10:05 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152018 Vikki, in the United States, Thanksgiving day falls on the fourth Thursday in November. In Canada, it falls on the second Monday in October.

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By: vikki https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152007 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:13:06 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152007 Is Thanksgiving Day the same day every year?Thanks.

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By: vikki https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152006 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:09:40 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-152006 today is Thanksgiving Day. Is that the Nov. 27 every year?

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By: Rev. Vincent Lipinski https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151947 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:51:13 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151947 Disclaimer: The following is written from my perspective as a cultural anthropologist. I am not discounting religious interpretation, just adding another view to the mix.

The first myth is that “tradition” is in stasis or static. This is not true – every tradition whether within a family or within a culture is in transition. The object of social events is to strengthen familial or cultural ties – such is the famed “Thanksgiving Dinner”. What one eats or where it originates from is not as important as forming and sustaining the bond.

Second, cultural myths are always being developed and refined. Over the course of time Americans have collectively incorporated symbols that help identify an observance and have discarded those that no longer speak to the event. So creation/origin stories will emerge, it’s okay that we have 3 or 5 or more stories about Thanksgiving. Some stories are better than others and those get retold; some are a bit scary and those get forgotten – especially when they do not strengthen national identity or nationalism.

In the US for example, everyone has a Thanksgiving Dinner. Even shelters and homeless missions offer one. The point is that this meal is a collective “communion” of American ideals in which we “remember” our founding fathers, their hopes and aspirations as colonists/missionaries/intellectuals/searchers for religious freedom/etc.

It is a collective communion because it is celebrated by everyone – otherwise, why would Asian-Americans or Hispanics celebrate a holiday that is outside their experience? If it were merely a commemoration of the first colonists then this would only be something observed in the New England States and only by the descendants of those pilgrims. The people of Hawaii and the people of the Southwest have a completely different founding experience (Hawaii with origins in Japan; some Hispanics with origins in Spain).

Thanksgiving, while couched in religious language, isn’t really a religious observance, it is a civil observance. It gives all Americans (and Canadians, respectively) a day in which a Nation’s people can bond and celebrate their common ideals. Now if they choose to celebrate that in a Jewish or Christian interpretation that’s fine, if they choose to celebrate that in an Islamic interpretation that’s fine, etc. The religious prespective, as a component part, is not as important as the social-cultural one when contemplating national identity. For this reason even atheists and agnostics celebrate the day.

That said:
Thanks be to God whose love is everlasting!
May you and yours have a Happy Thanksgiving!

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By: Terry Rachar https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151906 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:17:46 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151906 Exodus 23:16 The Feast of Ingathering, although not Christian, is the true first Thanksgiving after harvest. It is commanded by GOD of the Israelites for all males to meet. In my opinion this where Thanksgiving originates and is carried on by Christians. Many early Christians still adhered to the feasts that their fore fathers held. Even JESUS took part in these feasts. The true fact, therefore, is what we call Thanksgiving and took place annually thousands of years before this ” new world” was discovered. Deuteronomy 17: 13-15 here it sounds to me the GOD is saying to share your feast with others in yourfamily, your servants, strangers and those less fortunate. (widows) The thing about this Thanksgiving feast is it is recorded in the bible.

Everday should be Thanksgiving. We should always be thankful for what we have and what GOD provides for us everyday. This is not always the case and I am as guilty as the next, but GOD loves us anyways.

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By: Paul Steinbrueck https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151895 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:15:05 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151895 Jonathan, I disagree with your statement that it doesn’t relate to the the lives of the early Christians or the way Jesus told us to live our lives…

“There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.” — Acts 4:34-35

That passage makes it clear that individual Christians owned property, and they were very generous in helping those in need. They were not required to give all their earnings to the community, but they gave of their own free will.

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By: Jonathan Clifton https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151885 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:33 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151885 Ha! So God showed a sign that He preferred the capitalist system over a socialist one.
What a load of propaganda! Thats the myth Americans (esp. American christians)have been trying to propigate ever since. The problem is, it doesn’t relate to the lives of the early Christians or the way Jesus told us to live our lives. SelfLESSly.

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By: Rev. Dr. Terry Seney https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151880 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:02:59 +0000 https://www.ourchurch.com/blog/2008/11/25/true-story-of-thanksgiving/#comment-151880 In Canada Thanksgiving is celebrated on the second Monday in October. Unlike the American tradition of remembering Pilgrims and settling in the New World, Canadians give thanks for a successful harvest. The harvest season falls earlier in Canada compared to the United States due to the simple fact that Canada is further north.

The history of Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to an English explorer, Martin Frobisher, who had been trying to find a northern passage to the Orient. He did not succeed but he did establish a settlement in Northern America. In the year 1578, he held a formal ceremony, in what is now called Newfoundland, to give thanks for surviving the long journey. This is considered the first Canadian Thanksgiving. Other settlers arrived and continued these ceremonies. He was later knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after him – Frobisher Bay.

At the same time, French settlers, having crossed the ocean and arrived in Canada with explorer Samuel de Champlain, also held huge feasts of thanks. They even formed ‘The Order of Good Cheer’ and gladly shared their food with their Indian neighbours.

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